{"api_version": 1, "episode_id": "ep_the_shawn_ryan_show_927f3fe048f3", "title": "#296 Meg Appelgate - Why Parents Are Being Lied To About Teen \u201cTreatment\u201d", "podcast": "The Shawn Ryan Show", "podcast_slug": "the_shawn_ryan_show", "category": "culture", "publish_date": "2026-04-16T10:00:00+00:00", "audio_url": "https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pdrl.fm/55dc8e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/www.claritaspod.com/measure/arttrk.com/p/QCDM1/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD9369113793.mp3?updated=1776272621", "source_link": "https://shawnryanshow.com", "cover_image_url": "https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c8f5c08a-65ec-11ed-9372-0ba8e8e7be01/image/6923a66e291cd9b5437c4203bea06b8f.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress", "summary": "Meg Applegate reveals the pervasive issue of institutional child abuse within the troubled teen industry, highlighting how predators often infiltrate organizations meant to help children. She discusses the challenges survivors face in seeking justice, including legal intimidation from these institutions, and emphasizes the need for increased oversight and accountability. 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They can be scary.", "speaker": "Meg Applegate"}, {"text": "This isn't a good look for you. 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